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Post by thejudge on May 23, 2011 20:59:55 GMT -8
OK, help me understand this please. The ravens seems to be killing everybody in the wwfa they have played so far and is prolly a top team in the wwfa got killed by the bulldogs. the bulldogs are just gettin smashed eveery way possible by whoever they play in the pfl. Is the wwfa that dang on weak? I watched the shine this weekend and they were not impressive erbody picked them to win wwfa. i think the blitz is a top team in the wwfa to and maybe they for real but can somebody tell me if the wwfa is really that weak or what.
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Post by America on May 24, 2011 4:20:59 GMT -8
I would say yes. They are and have been weak. The top semi pro talent joins the PFL because it has more top stable teams, and the competition level is greater. The wwfa's only goal is to send a team to Vegas. This league is more of a show up and have fun play league and not real serious competition to the PFL or they would be in the PFL.
I still say, if the wwfa wants to step up and become serious, is to create their own niche and separate themselves from the serious 11 man PFL league by creating a fast paced Puget Sound 8-man league. This 8-man league could use most of the same rules as the Indoor Football League but on a full field. With many local indoor/area teams (Kent, Kennewick, Wenatchee, Spokane, and soon Yakima and Everett) The wwfa then could be the gateway to the Pros. Players and coaches would return to them. 8-man football would be something curious to fans and they will pay to watch. The Public then could be told that this Puget Sound 8-man league is a developmental league and a gateway to indoor football. Hell you could even get the parents of children playing Seattle area Arena football to notice.
The problem I see is that they may not have league leadership to make this happen.
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Post by America on May 24, 2011 4:25:37 GMT -8
The PDFL started off being the gateway to the pros but they tried to create a same old same old expensive 11-man league from scratch in this down economy and if they looked around they would see that they are surrounded by other semi pro leagues. Travel costs and time make no sense in this league thats on a poor mans budget. They should have joined a league and worked their way up to commish. A smart business move now is to change course and not stay doing the same money losing thing that is not working.
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Post by #31 Mr. ShutdownCb on May 24, 2011 7:38:44 GMT -8
You kill me with this 8 man football fantasy you have.
As for the WWFA. Who knows since they just started. The PFL has some stronger teams but that doesn't mean the league is garbage and some of their strong teams could compete. You never know unless you play so until then anything is just here say.
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Post by G_REYNOLDS on May 24, 2011 9:30:35 GMT -8
This isnt 7th grade, no one wants to play in an 8 man league ona full field, thats a terrible idea
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Post by beaugates on May 24, 2011 9:56:59 GMT -8
Funny thing when I was in Montana playing with the Outlaws they had a youth league for 8 man indoor league. I think they have a 8 or 9 man league around the Salem area or had one anyways.
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Post by beaugates on May 24, 2011 9:57:54 GMT -8
Do agree that there is no intrest for a stable 8 man league.
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Post by #31 Mr. ShutdownCb on May 24, 2011 11:07:43 GMT -8
The only 8 man being played around these parts is flag and let's just keep it their.
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Post by heath on May 24, 2011 11:35:30 GMT -8
nineman.com/Been around for 10 years. Competition level is not great but not bad. There are some athletes that can compete. Both the Outlaws and Buzzards came from the Nineman league and were champions of that league the year before they joined the OFL. The league is located between Salem and Eugene and its the primary reason there has never been Salem area team that has lasted. Not enough talent to go around in the area.
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Post by America on May 24, 2011 13:55:43 GMT -8
This isnt 7th grade, no one wants to play in an 8 man league ona full field, thats a terrible idea Wow! Arena and Indoor football is 7th grade. High School football in this state is 7th grade.  There’s no fan interest in Puget Sound WWFA 11 man also. So that leaves us gate paying fans and some un-moveable rock headed semi pro owners at a stale mate. (Emphasis on stale). Fans don't want to just give away their money and some owners just don't want fans. This works out nicely. I really do not believe owners who sacrifice their own money are closed minded and would love to see their money being poured down a rat hole. Some one day may have dreams of retiring and traveling when they are older and do not wish to worry about standing in some soup line just to support the fantasy of dudes playing rec football. That’s okay because fans in the Seattle area have much to do and can go and become entertained with Indoor football, Mariners, Rainiers baseball, High School sports, NBA and NHL playoff’s on TV or involved in the many entertainment and food establishment choices in our area. You and Mr. Gates made the statement of no interest. Are you speaking for the semi pro owners in the Seattle area or are you the guy paying their bills? The question out there is: Will players never play football again if the only teams around them are the teams that fielded 8 players? My guess on this would be a big fan No. Give it a try, save some money, and spark new life. |
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Post by America on May 24, 2011 14:12:27 GMT -8
Puget Sound WWFA 8-man possibility. Feed league to the Indoor Pro's. and A place for Youth to play once they reach the age of 18. Come's with a fan base. www.eteamz.com/arenayouthfootball/ |
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Post by G_REYNOLDS on May 24, 2011 14:16:34 GMT -8
the only time i have seen 8 man on a full field, is in 7th grade. arena and indoor are played on a small field, there for u need less players, as aplayer, i would not be interested in playing 8 man on a full field, sounds lame, as far as the tangin u went on, you lost me. i dont know what 8 man football vs real football has to do with retirement, rat holes, and soup lines.
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Post by America on May 24, 2011 14:22:44 GMT -8
I came from an area in my youth that was surrounded by 8 man High School football teams. Oakville, Napavine, Adna, Pe Ell, South Bend, Toutle Lake are just a few at that time. That was some great hard hitting and fast paced football. Much more exciting to watch than today's 11-man High School version. And they PLAYED on a FULL 120 yard FOOTBALL FIELD. Because of school enrollments increasing most of these schools moved up to 11-man football because this way they can play more guys.
The WWFA struggles to support 11-man football. A golden opportunity for them.
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Post by America on May 24, 2011 14:41:22 GMT -8
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Post by kirby34 on May 24, 2011 15:13:41 GMT -8
here is my question.. how the holy fuck is running an 8 man football team going to be significantly cheaper to run than 11 man football. High schools do because of participation not costs. Rob if you can show me the real data that running an 8man team is significantly cheaper than 11 man team., I would be willing to listen to your argue, you ass clown. Things that you still would simliar costs. Field and stadium rental: same REf:same, insurance: same uniforms: same assuming similuar participation travel : same .. prove me wrong
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