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Post by beaugates on Jun 18, 2012 13:32:08 GMT -8
Fuck that! I want to score a 100 on the vipers and hope they fold for good! It's not fair to players who plan their weekends around football to show up to these fucking games with 15 people. It's also not fair for teams to promote their product and have a team or should I say a group of 15 guys show up. I would never invite anybody I know to a game like that. I would be embarrassed. It's one thing if teams loose players because of injuries or situations that have priority over football, but in the vipers case it's because their so called leaders have no HEART! I got a lot of friends on the vipers people who I hold in high regard, but the leadership on that team is terrible. Bunch of me guys, when shit is going wrong they're quick to jump/leave ship. Teams like this I wish we would have played at the beginning of the season because we would get an actual game. This Saturday we would be better off practicing then whats going to take place. You know who I do give props; teams like the raiders and buzzards. Those guys have lost players at key positions and have lost games that they could have won but still are at 30 strong. Teams like that show their true character when facing adversity. I do remember at the beginning of the year I was talking the vipers up, thought they were going to do real well this year based on their talent. So this isn't me hating on the vipers or any of their players they still have. This is just me venting about playing the toughest schedule possible. so when I say I want to score 100 that's more of me just being pissed about playing in a non competitive game this weekend. I could really care less what the final score is. Shit I would rather win 7-0 then 70-14.
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Post by markmeadows on Jun 18, 2012 14:41:30 GMT -8
if they started with 55 the serious question to ask is, where are the other 40 players? did management throw anybody in a uniform to get 55? did they have 55 quality guys to start with who have since left? if so, why? is management the problem or are the type of players being recruited the problem? or a combination of both? This is the 2nd year in a row the Vipers have flamed out at the end of the season and maybe the PFL needs to sit down and have a long discussion and make some hard decisions about the franchise before the Vipers go down the path of the Multomah Bucs final years of forfeits and wasted games.
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Post by America on Jun 18, 2012 15:38:50 GMT -8
Double header and Triple header games in one location will fix this. All teams travel to one location. Get rid of home games. Semi pro teams don't have a home field. Semi Pro is nomadic. 5 stadium locations only for games. Ellensburg, Everett, Tacoma, Portland, Eugene. Fans and teams will know where the games are every week.
semi pro no·mad (nmd) n. 1. A group of people who have no fixed home and move according to the seasons from place to place in search of games, cheap field rentals and communities unfamiliar with semi pro footballs life styles.
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Post by markmeadows on Jun 18, 2012 15:42:29 GMT -8
you keep up with that tired "solution" yet never tell anyone who is going to pay? Southern Oregon has to play in Portland every week? That's stupid. Bellingham has to play in Tacoma every week? Stupid. Las Vegas has this..it's called the Wild West League...it's ghetto garbage "football" that usually ends in a fight at some point, not between the teams playing, but the other teams talking shit on the sidelines waiting for their game or after they've finished.
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Post by bearcat58 on Jun 18, 2012 16:20:51 GMT -8
so what about all of our fans who come support us locally? they're not going to travel to Tacoma to watch every week. I would rather invest in my community and play in a league that supports its teams and takes care of business.
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Post by America on Jun 19, 2012 4:12:40 GMT -8
so what about all of our fans who come support us locally? they're not going to travel to Tacoma to watch every week. I would rather invest in my community and play in a league that supports its teams and takes care of business. Then host 6 teams. Give your fans a view of the PFL. OR keep doing what semi pro is doing year after year. America, ideas and its technology are changing but semi pro has not. How's it working for everyone?
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Post by markmeadows on Jun 19, 2012 5:16:17 GMT -8
So Grays Harbor gets to play every game at home while Yakima, Bellingham, South King and everyone else have to travel every week? Ya...very sound solution there dumbass. How do you think your Jags would have taken to not having home games and being forced to drive to Olympia every week if the NWFL had this plan in place and the three Portland teams (Panthers, Bucs, T-Bolts) had to drive to Olympia for games? Answer: splintering of the NWFL into new leagues and your Jags would have been garbage because who would play for a nomadic team with no home-base? But, knowing your mentality you would be all for it if you were still an owner, so long as YOU got to be the host venue. If Ron Baines agreed to this format but told you the Jags had to travel every week we all know you would have been first to jump ship to the NAFL or whatever flavor of the week "national" league promised you power and control over your regional empire. Oh wait...that actually kinda happened didn't it??
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Post by America on Jun 20, 2012 3:54:48 GMT -8
Keep following to plan and dreams of fuck head Meadows and Semi Pro football will fall in fan popularity below childrens soccer. Mark cares not if owners can make a dime to help support their teams. He's looking out for the freeloaders.
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Post by markmeadows on Jun 20, 2012 4:06:57 GMT -8
Keep following to plan and dreams of fuck head Meadows and Semi Pro football will fall in fan popularity below childrens soccer. Mark cares not if owners can make a dime to help support their teams. He's looking out for the freeloaders. So who makes any money under your "everyone plays at one place plan" jackwad? One team gets to be the home team the rest travel?? Makes a lot of sense. You have to explain a financially feasible way to make that work, just your typical "dreamer" robin rarey-friendly venue where you would be the only fan in the stands...but then that would make you feel self-important so that works for you...screw everyone else right. Jackass.
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Post by America on Jun 20, 2012 15:06:25 GMT -8
Keep following to plan and dreams of fuck head Meadows and Semi Pro football will fall in fan popularity below childrens soccer. Mark cares not if owners can make a dime to help support their teams. He's looking out for the freeloaders. So who makes any money under your "everyone plays at one place plan" jackwad? One team gets to be the home team the rest travel?? Makes a lot of sense. You have to explain a financially feasible way to make that work, just your typical "dreamer" robin rarey-friendly venue where you would be the only fan in the stands...but then that would make you feel self-important so that works for you...screw everyone else right. Jackass. You are one dumb shit for sure Meadows. Other leagues do it. Ask them how its done. Does not take major brain power to figure this out. Wow!
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Post by #31 Mr. ShutdownCb on Jun 20, 2012 18:25:13 GMT -8
Move this conversation to bullshit. Nobody cares to hear these two bitch at each other some more.
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Post by toro on Jun 20, 2012 18:55:10 GMT -8
lol
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Post by markmeadows on Jun 20, 2012 19:37:13 GMT -8
yes please move it to the bullshit section because just like a democrat, whenever Rob is asked to explain how to pay for his utopian ideals he degrades himself to vulgar comments and attacks...never a REAL SOLUTION.
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Post by toro on Jun 20, 2012 19:42:34 GMT -8
Ban Mark for bringing politics on this board...
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Post by America on Jun 21, 2012 16:17:18 GMT -8
yes please move it to the bullshit section because just like a democrat, whenever Rob is asked to explain how to pay for his utopian ideals he degrades himself to vulgar comments and attacks...never a REAL SOLUTION. Yes move this to the Mark dip shit section. He's like a dictator Marxist with his brain dead iron fisted rule to keep doing the same failed crap year after year. Marxist Mark wants no change, wants no ideas taking him out of his comfort zone or hates competition attacking his Mark ist ideas.
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